Comments on: the R http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:38:48 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: martin http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-907 martin Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:59:27 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-907 Hmm I could write a whole article on this :). Perhaps my analogy was wrong because jocks *know* nerds are different, whereas two people of different races *assume* that the other is different based on superficial differences like skin color etc. And this initial assumption leads to dislike between the parties. So maybe you're right, once people get more educated, and learn that their initial assumptions are wrong, hostile encounters like yours wont happen anymore. But there will always be hostility among people when they *know* the other is different and dislike each other for that reason. Unfortunately that will be branded as racism, even though fundamentally I dont think it is. Hmm I could write a whole article on this :) . Perhaps my analogy was wrong because jocks *know* nerds are different, whereas two people of different races *assume* that the other is different based on superficial differences like skin color etc. And this initial assumption leads to dislike between the parties.

So maybe you’re right, once people get more educated, and learn that their initial assumptions are wrong, hostile encounters like yours wont happen anymore.

But there will always be hostility among people when they *know* the other is different and dislike each other for that reason. Unfortunately that will be branded as racism, even though fundamentally I dont think it is.

]]> By: aditya http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-906 aditya Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:34:30 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-906 I agree that there's discrimination amongst people of their own color. But I disagree that it's human nature to dislike people who look different from you. Personally, I classify people in a few categories... be it jock, or a nerd, or rocker or whatever. But I don't discriminate in any way. If I was at a party, I wouldn't humiliate anyone because of the simple fact that they look different than me.. In fact, I would discriminate my own kind by being more friendly to peeps who aren't the same color as me. Say I met a white rocker at a party... I wouldn't hate on the fact that they listen to The Police, but be more interested on why they do... and even check out their music if I am sold. I agree that there’s discrimination amongst people of their own color. But I disagree that it’s human nature to dislike people who look different from you. Personally, I classify people in a few categories… be it jock, or a nerd, or rocker or whatever. But I don’t discriminate in any way. If I was at a party, I wouldn’t humiliate anyone because of the simple fact that they look different than me.. In fact, I would discriminate my own kind by being more friendly to peeps who aren’t the same color as me. Say I met a white rocker at a party… I wouldn’t hate on the fact that they listen to The Police, but be more interested on why they do… and even check out their music if I am sold.

]]> By: martin http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-905 martin Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:23:13 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-905 Personally I think racism will always exist. When you look at a person on the street (or at a country border), you always judge by appearance...its just first impressions. You decide to like the person or you dont. People always have prejudices against people who look different from themselves. For example the border guard looked at your family, saw that you were brown and decided not to like you because you were different. But what about prejudices between people of the same color? This happens all the time as well. You have big muscular jocks and you have small weedy nerds. When you have jocks picking on nerds because they're different what do you call that? Nerdism? Its just fundamental human nature to dislike people who look different from you. Personally I think racism will always exist. When you look at a person on the street (or at a country border), you always judge by appearance…its just first impressions. You decide to like the person or you dont.

People always have prejudices against people who look different from themselves. For example the border guard looked at your family, saw that you were brown and decided not to like you because you were different. But what about prejudices between people of the same color? This happens all the time as well. You have big muscular jocks and you have small weedy nerds. When you have jocks picking on nerds because they’re different what do you call that? Nerdism?

Its just fundamental human nature to dislike people who look different from you.

]]> By: aditya http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-765 aditya Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:37:20 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-765 here's my take on all of this... i understand that racism exists every where, be it canada or the US... but just because it is apparent every where, we cannot simply brush it under the carpet. I think we need to get to the root cause of racism. is it because of lack of education or is deeper than that? not sure... do you think certain individuals are more racist no matter the level of their education, environment etc.. do you think these seeds of racism are planted the very moment they are born? and why? are certain individuals afraid that people who do not look like them can coexist and be successful? is this the worry? do they want to hold some sort of power over what they believe are inferior individuals... but who plants these seeds of racism? here’s my take on all of this…

i understand that racism exists every where, be it canada or the US… but just because it is apparent every where, we cannot simply brush it under the carpet. I think we need to get to the root cause of racism. is it because of lack of education or is deeper than that? not sure… do you think certain individuals are more racist no matter the level of their education, environment etc.. do you think these seeds of racism are planted the very moment they are born? and why? are certain individuals afraid that people who do not look like them can coexist and be successful? is this the worry? do they want to hold some sort of power over what they believe are inferior individuals… but who plants these seeds of racism?

]]> By: Shayan http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-764 Shayan Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:10:49 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-764 Unfortunately, that border guard personifies what most foreigners think of America - obnoxious, arrogant and insipid. Racism can't be defeated, it can be decreased and what not sure, but it can't be stopped. Canada has enough racism too, it's just more subtle :p Unfortunately, that border guard personifies what most foreigners think of America – obnoxious, arrogant and insipid. Racism can’t be defeated, it can be decreased and what not sure, but it can’t be stopped. Canada has enough racism too, it’s just more subtle :p

]]> By: martin http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-763 martin Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:47:40 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-763 The problem with these border guards (or even police) is that these jobs generally attract people who are uneducated and like to have power. Racism will linger in these types of people longer than others, which is unfortunate because they are the first impression you get when entering the states. The problem with these border guards (or even police) is that these jobs generally attract people who are uneducated and like to have power.

Racism will linger in these types of people longer than others, which is unfortunate because they are the first impression you get when entering the states.

]]> By: Chad Curry http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-762 Chad Curry Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:26:09 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-762 Yo, Aditya, i dont know where to start, there is so much racism in this country, and this America used to make it illegal to discriminate against mainly blacks and all other minorities, so I ask myself why so serious? What is it with people that makes them want to discriminate and belittle against people of color? What kind of seeds of hatred or disrespect causes them to show scourn brown skinned people? My mother used to live in fear in Birmingham, Alabama, blacks used to get humiliated and we must ask ourselves, damn why are you trying to humiliate me? or it's like do you have a problem with me because I look different than you? You are as American as anything, and even if you were not an American we are all still the same human beings no matter where you come from, it's just that those border police had a little bit of power they knew you guys were traveling a long distance and he wanted to make you guys feel little, and inferior, this country has been built on racist laws and the people in power are still racist. I feel your frustration son, I have been pulled by the police right here in new haven all of the time and they ask me stupid questions, and I am like what? Don't let them get to you because there are a lot more of them out there that will do the same, damn snakes in the grass biting at your ankles, aight, peace, one love, Jah guide. Yo, Aditya, i dont know where to start, there is so much racism in this country, and this America used to make it illegal to discriminate against mainly blacks and all other minorities, so I ask myself why so serious? What is it with people that makes them want to discriminate and belittle against people of color? What kind of seeds of hatred or disrespect causes them to show scourn brown skinned people? My mother used to live in fear in Birmingham, Alabama, blacks used to get humiliated and we must ask ourselves, damn why are you trying to humiliate me? or it’s like do you have a problem with me because I look different than you?
You are as American as anything, and even if you were not an American we are all still the same human beings no matter where you come from, it’s just that those border police had a little bit of power they knew you guys were traveling a long distance and he wanted to make you guys feel little, and inferior, this country has been built on racist laws and the people in power are still racist.
I feel your frustration son, I have been pulled by the police right here in new haven all of the time and they ask me stupid questions, and I am like what?
Don’t let them get to you because there are a lot more of them out there that will do the same, damn snakes in the grass biting at your ankles, aight, peace, one love, Jah guide.

]]> By: aditya http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-761 aditya Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:58:02 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-761 Stop defeating the point of this post. :P Stop defeating the point of this post. :P

]]> By: Samita http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/2008/12/24/the-r.html/comment-page-1#comment-760 Samita Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:56:34 +0000 http://www.saltedmango.com/blog/?p=182#comment-760 That's what you get for loving America. Good thing you're in Canada, we accept all rejects. hahaaa That’s what you get for loving America. Good thing you’re in Canada, we accept all rejects. hahaaa

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